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A constructive breakdown of Magpie:


Magpie wrote:
Thanks for that Cailo, you asked for my two cents so here it is.
I think you forgot to mention that about 5-6 months ago we were lucky to have 6 or 7 people turn up raid night(which I would organize) and most days I'd log in, we'd be lucky to see more than 2 people online. You were ready to hand GM over to just about anyone since the Moss bullshit almost ruined our guild. I kept trying to keep people to attending raids, doing dungeons or whatever. I made friends along the way through pugs including people from Exit Strategy. If it wasn't for people like me, Twelve as a guild would most likely not be raiding right now. What a short memory some people have...


What we see here is Magpie acknowledging that he needs to be told to stand up for himself instead of doing it without someones permission, a perfect example of a follower or drone as the zerg call them. Here the Drone explains of all the issues the Hive cluster had (Not the job one, the WoW one). He listed Duran stealing the zerg and merging them with protoss to be something more, but as usual with Hybrid experimenting, it succeeded only to a point. The Hive which Duran stole from still had Kerrigan, strong, but in a weak mental state. Kerrigan needed help and reinforcing. So this little Drone went looking for a Queen, a possible Zagara for the dear Kerrigan. This little Drone found Zagara on another planet with lots of other little drones and a few zerglings. This Drone instantly realised he had solely saved Kerrigans Hive, but really... He is just a pathetic forgettable Drone, yet to realise his place in the Hive.

Magpie wrote:
Along with our recent guildies return, there have been some awesome people that I enjoy spending my time with while doing whatever we do, but there's been some fuckheads as well.
I'm not going to sugar coat anything, so I'm just going to name and shame!


The Little Drone went along enjoying harvesting his crystals with some fellow drones, enjoying his time, until certain units spawned.… DUN DUN DUNNNNNN.

Magpie wrote:
A few weeks go Hobz gave us a glimpse of how much of a cunt he can be. It started with whispers to me and god know's who else constantly regarding the strats we were using.
Ok we know you've done mythic's 6 months ago(which I couldn't give a fuck about) since you reminded me several times that night thanks Hobz!
But when you decided to speak to Rose(our raid leader who I regard as a friend) like shit after I mentioned your suggestion, I thought why the fuck am I raiding with elitist wankers like this. We are a casual guild these days... It didn't take a rocket scientist to work out that you are a wanker.
The guild chat that followed with little drama queens like Dragnat adding fuel to the fire made me sick. Both of you cunts should be ashamed of yourselves!
Being a raid leader can be stressful enough without condescending cunts insisting that their strats are better and that any retard that can't handle it to be kicked... this is from someone that had been back with us for 2 weeks.


The drone became scared... He noticed something different... A new species among... THE HIVE!!!! It was ALEXEI STUKOV! Alexei Stukov had come forth and shown his true colours, he started with a few taunts and flexing to the little drone, showings his formidable reconstructed body. The drone became outraged when Stukov refuted Zagara, disrespecting her, but showing her that she lacks "VISION". The Drone noticed another zerg causing trouble... It was the grim disgusting... Drag... Dehaka., causing trouble by making suggestive remarks and actions. The Drone tried to empathise with Zagara, but failed, the Drone didn't have the correct mental capacity to handle such vision, he was stuck on mineral duty, yet to be even useful to make an Ultralisk den or his own Hive.

Magpie wrote:
So you guys go ahead and enjoy sucking each others dicks in your happy fun raids and go ahead and hang shit on me, I COULD NOT GIVE A FUCK!
Some of us prefer 15-20 man raids these days anyway, so are much happier with our current group. We will continue to waste time talking shit, fucking around a bit, forget pots and rock up a bit late. We still manage to down a new boss every week that we raid.
Good luck with all of your rules and special thoughts guys, that sounds like shit loads of fun is about to pour into your raids! IT'S JUST A GAME!
I'd rather be in a progression group where we are all learning fights together for the first time. A group without dick heads whispering to each other questioning everything the raid leader is doing because they have been there and done that already.
I've been in this guild for over 10 years. I still love most of you idiots and to those that are friends still, I look forward to whatever the fuck the future holds.
Keyboard warriors go nuts, love Magpie.


The little drone was upset... Maddened, by such betrayal, he felt that all the zerg should just merge together and become one... Feast on each other.

The drone thought it was having fun with it's other drones when it left the Hive... But the day will come, when it will come back to the main Hive, where it's safely secured and strategically placed in a superior and more progressive position. The drone made it's peace with the fellow drones in the end and raged at those superior Zerg units for being better than the little drone.

- The Life of Magdrone.
Last edited by Shrewmkin on Mar 23rd, 2016, 7:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Fun
cunt oversells it, that's just straight up fucking retarded.

who the fuck has that much time on their hands to bother doing that.
moss
Fun wrote:
cunt oversells it, that's just straight up fucking retarded.

who the fuck has that much time on their hands to bother doing that.


Have you met Shrewm? cunt has nothing but time.

Nice to see the revolving door is still revolving. Best of luck with it all. =)
Magpie
Shrewmkin wrote:
A constructive breakdown of Magpie:


Magpie wrote:
Thanks for that Cailo, you asked for my two cents so here it is.
I think you forgot to mention that about 5-6 months ago we were lucky to have 6 or 7 people turn up raid night(which I would organize) and most days I'd log in, we'd be lucky to see more than 2 people online. You were ready to hand GM over to just about anyone since the Moss bullshit almost ruined our guild. I kept trying to keep people to attending raids, doing dungeons or whatever. I made friends along the way through pugs including people from Exit Strategy. If it wasn't for people like me, Twelve as a guild would most likely not be raiding right now. What a short memory some people have...


What we see here is Magpie acknowledging that he needs to be told to stand up for himself instead of doing it without someones permission, a perfect example of a follower or drone as the zerg call them. Here the Drone explains of all the issues the Hive cluster had (Not the job one, the WoW one). He listed Duran stealing the zerg and merging them with protoss to be something more, but as usual with Hybrid experimenting, it succeeded only to a point. The Hive which Duran stole from still had Kerrigan, strong, but in a weak mental state. Kerrigan needed help and reinforcing. So this little Drone went looking for a Queen, a possible Zagara for the dear Kerrigan. This little Drone found Zagara on another planet with lots of other little drones and a few zerglings. This Drone instantly realised he had solely saved Kerrigans Hive, but really... He is just a pathetic forgettable Drone, yet to realise his place in the Hive.

Magpie wrote:
Along with our recent guildies return, there have been some awesome people that I enjoy spending my time with while doing whatever we do, but there's been some fuckheads as well.
I'm not going to sugar coat anything, so I'm just going to name and shame!


The Little Drone went along enjoying harvesting his crystals with some fellow drones, enjoying his time, until certain units spawned.… DUN DUN DUNNNNNN.

Magpie wrote:
A few weeks go Hobz gave us a glimpse of how much of a cunt he can be. It started with whispers to me and god know's who else constantly regarding the strats we were using.
Ok we know you've done mythic's 6 months ago(which I couldn't give a fuck about) since you reminded me several times that night thanks Hobz!
But when you decided to speak to Rose(our raid leader who I regard as a friend) like shit after I mentioned your suggestion, I thought why the fuck am I raiding with elitist wankers like this. We are a casual guild these days... It didn't take a rocket scientist to work out that you are a wanker.
The guild chat that followed with little drama queens like Dragnat adding fuel to the fire made me sick. Both of you cunts should be ashamed of yourselves!
Being a raid leader can be stressful enough without condescending cunts insisting that their strats are better and that any retard that can't handle it to be kicked... this is from someone that had been back with us for 2 weeks.


The drone became scared... He noticed something different... A new species among... THE HIVE!!!! It was ALEXEI STUKOV! Alexei Stukov had come forth and shown his true colours, he started with a few taunts and flexing to the little drone, showings his formidable reconstructed body. The drone became outraged when Stukov refuted Zagara, disrespecting her, but showing her that she lacks "VISION". The Drone noticed another zerg causing trouble... It was the grim disgusting... Drag... Dehaka., causing trouble by making suggestive remarks and actions. The Drone tried to empathise with Zagara, but failed, the Drone didn't have the correct mental capacity to handle such vision, he was stuck on mineral duty, yet to be even useful to make an Ultralisk den or his own Hive.

Magpie wrote:
So you guys go ahead and enjoy sucking each others dicks in your happy fun raids and go ahead and hang shit on me, I COULD NOT GIVE A FUCK!
Some of us prefer 15-20 man raids these days anyway, so are much happier with our current group. We will continue to waste time talking shit, fucking around a bit, forget pots and rock up a bit late. We still manage to down a new boss every week that we raid.
Good luck with all of your rules and special thoughts guys, that sounds like shit loads of fun is about to pour into your raids! IT'S JUST A GAME!
I'd rather be in a progression group where we are all learning fights together for the first time. A group without dick heads whispering to each other questioning everything the raid leader is doing because they have been there and done that already.
I've been in this guild for over 10 years. I still love most of you idiots and to those that are friends still, I look forward to whatever the fuck the future holds.
Keyboard warriors go nuts, love Magpie.


The little drone was upset... Maddened, by such betrayal, he felt that all the zerg should just merge together and become one... Feast on each other.

The drone thought it was having fun with it's other drones when it left the Hive... But the day will come, when it will come back to the main Hive, where it's safely secured and strategically placed in a superior and more progressive position. The drone made it's peace with the fellow drones in the end and raged at those superior Zerg units for being better than the little drone.

- The Life of Magdrone.

That was an entertaining read. I just got home from work and have things to do so If you want my comeback, you will need to scrape it off your mums face and chest...
Nah just kidding its mostly up her arse, she loves it there!
moss
Dwy wrote:
that was a lot to read

Was it worth it Dwy?
If it was a film i would want my money back.
cailo-
Right I can't sleep I want to talk about this right now and hopefully fucking finish this.

Magpie, I never wanted to give the GM away. What I did say in http://www.imtwelve.com/15467-looking-ahead was that I was open to having someone find raiding or some kind of activities for the guild to participate in. You found us Exit Strategy and it was a good alliance, it encouraged a lot of people to come back. We were raiding with Exit Strategy on their hospitality, their rules. Twelve got too big for Exit Strategy so they wanted to go smaller. (I don't want to hear ANY abuse towards Exit Strategy or Rose, what they do is THEIR choice not ours it has nothing to do with us. I pisses me off so much hearing about Twelve abuse towards Exit Strategy, stay out of their business or GTFO) All the officers agreed on the smaller raid thing but we were all wrong, it was clear it was the wrong move as soon as it was stated in our guild chat, the back pass dealings and 2 raids of haves and have nots would of divided the guild and been against the Free Twelve movement I want. The person who stepped up to raid lead that night was Hobz.

A couple of weeks before Hobz started raiding with us again we had a couple of elitist raid with us. It showed this was not the right direction we want to go in for our casual raiding we want to do. Hobz may of made too many elitist comments on the night but hey so did a lot of people, many Twelve crew were not liking the direction that Exit Strategy were going in, we started to wonder if we could form a raid by our selves (which in the end happened spontaneously as told in the previous paragraph). But the thing Magpie can't get over is the idea that Hobz is a 100% elitist all the time and that he doesn't want Twelve raids to be lead by such a person. We just had a right tonight lead by him and it couldn't of been further from that, he learned from that first night, he is a Twelvian through and through and he wants to work with us not against us. Dam it tonights raid was one of the most fun I have ever had: Magpie must think that is impossible. Magpie has never given Hobz a chance. I have talked to some people about the Amercian Idol generation of people thinking they can be overnight superstars with out any practice. No, the first time we try something we might suck at it, but if we work on it we get better. I can assure Magpie that Hobz has got better and he is doing an outstanding job.

What sucks most about the Magpie and Hobz situation is that if Magpie could get the fuck over this petty hate he has for him he could be the best of friends with him. Magpie and Hobz are the biggest drunks I know: you guys would of been spooning on the lawn if Magpie had of been there. :D

So much fun at the meet. That is the Twelve I stress about. That is the Twelve I am passionate about, the Twelve we are all passionate about, the Twelve that causes people to say such hurtful stuff to each other because we fucking love this place and we don't want any harm to come to it. Moss stood up for it, Magpie stood up for it, which leads me to the next thing I want to address. I think the GM / raid leader relationship is similar to the chairman of the board / CEO relationship. Often you guys must think, "What the fuck does Cailo do around here? He doesn't organise raids, he doesn't seem to do anything." I want strong minded officers to be jerks, guild whips who put people into line. I like Magpies passion and volatility. A CEO with out a chairman of the board can go rogue and go ahead and do things in their own interest, they might be volatile by nature but the members need that chairman to keep them in line. The chairman needs to be the nice guy, the approachable guy, the guy who the members can trust will put the organisations best interests first. Moss doesn't realise just how often I can people behind his back coming to me seeking reassurance. I do what I do because I fucking care about them.I need my CEO to be volatile and I will balance it with calmness, the ying yang style of governance is something I think works well.

I digress. The heart of this shit storm has come from 'Magpie hates Hobz'. It's so petty and it has caused enough hurt. Einstien once said, "Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind." People wonder why people keep killing each other in this world, humans are capable of bad things when they are passionate about something regarding nationalism and patriotism. Am I comparing a top hat and twelve to a swastik and the natzis? No, that is way too far. But maybe, just maybe, it triggers a similar part of of the brain. Think about that next time you want to spread hate just because you love Twelve.

This documentary might be a good watch for you.


And for christ sake, peace guys.

Let the good times roll on.
Last edited by cailo- on Mar 24th, 2016, 6:25 am, edited 1 time in total.
cailo-
Please don't lock this thread lets let people spew it all out so we can all start feeling better again. Man I've never felt so angry from a guild thing before, its all so fucking stupid.
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