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Riots in Australia

Glad we don't have any german tanks here

Fork
moss wrote:
Fun wrote:
I'd be interested in hearing your opinions on what should be done, by the Government or otherwise.


Not a simple thing... i assume you've seen Captain America: Winter Solider?

Those giant airship gunner thingies. We use them. Program them for "religious belief", and hit the "On" button.

Problem should be sorted in a week.

I see the metadata retention laws about equivalent to the giant airship gunner things.
Fun
Malieus wrote:
Where equality and fairness are not just right's but mundane.


what does this mean
Fun
thorment wrote:
Fun wrote:
Malieus wrote:
Where equality and fairness are not just right's but mundane.


what does this mean


You seem a bit confused, here


You're not clever.
thorment
Fun wrote:
thorment wrote:
Fun wrote:
Malieus wrote:
Where equality and fairness are not just right's but mundane.


what does this mean


You seem a bit confused, here


You're not clever.

moss
Fork wrote:
moss wrote:
Fun wrote:
I'd be interested in hearing your opinions on what should be done, by the Government or otherwise.


Not a simple thing... i assume you've seen Captain America: Winter Solider?

Those giant airship gunner thingies. We use them. Program them for "religious belief", and hit the "On" button.

Problem should be sorted in a week.

I see the metadata retention laws about equivalent to the giant airship gunner things.


Oh come on Fork, no one is going to get shot on their door step for pirating movies. False equivalence …
Malieus
Clownshoes wrote:
Malieus wrote:
Sharia Law communities, like the US already does.


Citation needed

Turns out I was wrong and there is only civil run courts in the UK. But hey, I would still prefer no Christian ideology in our laws either. Turns out the internet is full of claims of their existence but only on sites without citation. Snopes says they are false, be it no go zones or any communities under sharia law. Good article that sums it up , also bring to light the difficulty with removing a false political idea once it is planted. http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa … ts/384656/

But hey just help highlight my other point, people are actually afraid of this, weather or not that fear is baseless.
Fun
Malieus wrote:
But hey just help highlight my other point, people are actually afraid of this, weather or not that fear is baseless.


People are afraid of ghosts, the dark and spiders.

Just because a group of people are afraid of something, is not the basis for govnerment intervention or vitriolic rallies against minorities.

I'm mildly afraid of heights, I don't expect the government to impose height restrictions on all future constructions to accommodate my near baseless fears.
Jiminy
I don't think it's so much a fear, it's that there are many countries that operate Islamic courts already and people simply do not want that here. I'm one of them. I don't want any Islamic courts or any other religious courts in my country, even if it would only apply to them and it's not because i'm afraid of it, it's because it's fucking stupid.

If you think that it's only a "small minority" of Muslims who want Sharia law and Sharia courts, guess again. It's the vast majority. After all, these legal systems exist in most Islamic countries to some degree.

To think Sharia law is not being practiced already to some degree in large ex-pat Islamic communities would be incorrect. By the time Sharia courts are legally sanctioned, they would have already been using them behind closed doors for years. After all, a man recently married a 12 year old girl in NSW in an Islamic ceremony.

Edit: And people not wanting or liking something is the exact reason to protest it and for government intervention.
Spoon
Jiminy wrote:
If you think that it's only a "small minority" of Muslims who want Sharia law and Sharia courts, guess again. It's the vast majority.

Please provide a source for this fact.

Jiminy wrote:
By the time Sharia courts are legally sanctioned

How exactly would this come about? We already have our own legal system in Australia if you're unaware. You can't just have a second set of laws within the country that contradict the rest.

Jiminy wrote:
After all, a man recently married a 12 year old girl in NSW in an Islamic ceremony.

Yes, and this guy is in jail because that is against the laws of Australia.
Fun
Jiminy wrote:
I don't think it's so much a fear, it's that there are many countries that operate Islamic courts already and people simply do not want that here. I'm one of them. I don't want any Islamic courts or any other religious courts in my country, even if it would only apply to them and it's not because i'm afraid of it, it's because it's fucking stupid.

If you think that it's only a "small minority" of Muslims who want Sharia law and Sharia courts, guess again. It's the vast majority. After all, these legal systems exist in most Islamic countries to some degree.

To think Sharia law is not being practiced already to some degree in large ex-pat Islamic communities would be incorrect. By the time Sharia courts are legally sanctioned, they would have already been using them behind closed doors for years. After all, a man recently married a 12 year old girl in NSW in an Islamic ceremony.

Edit: And people not wanting or liking something is the exact reason to protest it and for government intervention.


Honestly Jim, I'd be amazed if even half of what you've said is true with actual evidence to back it up.

Like with Malieus' claim about Sharia communities, there's a lot of bullshit out there passed off as fact and people are accepting it because they're suspicious or uncomfortable with these groups - in large part due to the government actively encouraging it.
SilverClaw
Jiminy wrote:
If you think that it's only a "small minority" of Muslims who want Sharia law and Sharia courts, guess again. It's the vast majority. After all, these legal systems exist in most Islamic countries to some degree.


I'm guessing you don't have any Muslim friends?
Clownshoes
Multiculturalism here tends to promote integration heavily. Presumably if there is inconsistency between a cultures ideals/values and the law, the law would win.

If you're trying to make a strong point, it would work better if you don't post flat out incorrect information.
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