Comrade Jiminy ~will~ embrace the hammer and sickle one day.
But today is not that day.
Ha! Unlikely. I despise socialism and communism is a pipe dream. I actually want my country to get stronger, not turn into a giant homeless shelter.
Why do you despise socialism? We're basically a socialist democracy as it is despite Abbott's failing overtures. Government subsidised health care, education and robust social welfare services.
Here is what I don't like and never will like. On a fundamental level, I don't believe we should continue to support those which contribute nothing to the wider group. I don't believe in equality. It's a ridiculous concept. I believe in equal rights, but not that we are
equal. And I certainly don't believe you solve wealth inequality by simply giving people money.
What else do you want your tax dollars going towards?
I've said it before, but i'll say it again so you don't need to actually bother to read anything i've written earlier. Infrastructure. Roads, airports, tunnels, train lines, hospitals, schools. This is priority number one for me. Because everyone benefits, especially the people who need social
I'm curious as to how you think that works at a State, Federal and even Local level? In terms of the provision and funding. As far as I was aware (could be incorrect) the federal government can only provide a fraction of that, and that the majority is provided at a state level.
As for social services, there is a point to which I agree with you but you've just oversimplified so much of it, intentionally or otherwise.
Do you think it isn't financially prudent to support out of work skilled workers or students who through support will eventually become (in the vast majority of cases) productive members of taxable
Do you sincerely think that a small government model like some periods the US is the best option? Considering their weak social policies they still have for the most part atrocious infrastructure (rail, road, school, everything).
I agree that there are genuine parasites in our communities who feed off social services like the festering ticks that they are, but I for one am thankfully for the capacity to study and still be somewhat supported by the government in order to do so.
I'm aware of how state and federal funding work and firmly believe that in regards to large scale infrastructure projects, things need to change, drastically. The way we handle our funds between state and federal is hamstringing us.
In any case, I thought we were discussing politics in general, not just federal, because that's how I was commenting.
I've oversimplified it because we'd have to sit down over a box of beer to discuss exactly which types of social welfare I would change and which I wouldn't. I'm not against all social welfare, i just want to see something for my money, and giving $ a week to every 16-22 year old kid on the central coast so they can lie on the beach everyday while claiming they're studying (read:some retarded tafe beauty course) is not it.
But paying the entire fee for people doing nursing degrees? Yes. Because we have a health crisis involving a lack of nurses right now.
I think it's prudent to support out of work, skilled workers with something like a job. Where is the snowy mountains hydro electric scheme of our time? Why can't we give them a job instead of cash? We need schools fixed, we need median strips mowed... There is no shortage of work to be done in this country.
I don't think the US is the best example here. for 316 million people you are talking about the world's largest economy. It's because of their infrastructure that it's that big. I would certainly not call it atrocious. Their national highway network is one of the best in the world. The new york subway is second to none.
I don't know enough about their education system to comment, but I think their social issues are more due to shitty minimum wage, the need for tax reform and a growing wealth gap that is spiralling out of control.
But really, lets just leave the US alone. It's far too different to compare anything really.
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