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Jiminy
Shrewmkin wrote:
Jiminy wrote:
Shrewmkin wrote:
Jiminy wrote:
The other policy that would be straight back in under my dictatorship would be forced conscription. Every man over 18 would do a minimum of 2 years in the armed forces. These two policies alone would deter 90% of these people.


Including those with medical liabilities?


Don't be stupid. The last thing I would want is you behind the wheel of a million dollar tank. There'd be office jobs also.


I wouldn't want to be anyway, sleeping in an officer does sound better.


Sounds gay.

Fun wrote:
Jiminy wrote:
Fun wrote:
Hunterbob wrote:
Shrewmkin wrote:
Jiminy wrote:
The other policy that would be straight back in under my dictatorship would be forced conscription. Every man over 18 would do a minimum of 2 years in the armed forces. These two policies alone would deter 90% of these people.


Including those with medical liabilities?

Conscription is a good idea, I agree. But of course medical liabilities are exempt (dependent on the liability of course). Israel has mandatory conscription and they basically have their education paid for whilst there. My old boss and his team all gained their qualifications while in the military.


Conscription is an awful, awful, idea.

I don't think that armed services gap year following high school is a bad idea, but conscription generally is a fucking atrocious concept.


I was over exaggerating. I would more run a mandatory military service similar to Finland or Denmark. I think the youth of today could benefit greatly from the discipline and responsibility. Also, as a fighting force, we are horribly vulnerable.


Yeah I know, just HB sounded like a fascist for a moment.

I like how the Scandinavian countries do it, isn't so much of a nationalist hoo-rah. I think 6+ months after school doing some form of military service would be great, discipline, responsibility and an appreciation for the realities of armed service couldn't hurt anyone.

Plus I'd 100% be down for doing 6months of being a sapper or something. Detonating bridges and whatnot.


I also find it extremely concerning that our men would just have no idea what to do or where to go in the event of a disaster or invasion. There's no plan.

In Finland, if the shit hits the fan, they all grab their rifle and head to their local area command and start organising what to do. In Australia we would just run around looting until the enemy rounded us up and stuck us in labour camps.

When you have a very small population and a large possibly hostile one day neighbour. Mandatory Military service is a very good idea. Right now we have 50,000 men who can fight really well and that's it. I'd like to see 50,000 who can fight really well and 8 million who can fight o.k.

Also, every man, no matter what their beliefs, should know how to handle a gun and have some idea how to be a part of an army so they can protect their local community. It also helps for disaster relief etc.
Shrewmkin
Wow that typo zzzz

Jiminy wrote:
When you have a very small population and a large possibly hostile one day neighbour. Mandatory Military service is a very good idea. Right now we have 50,000 men who can fight really well and that's it. I'd like to see 50,000 who can fight really well and 8 million who can fight o.k.

Also, every man, no matter what their beliefs, should know how to handle a gun and have some idea how to be a part of an army so they can protect their local community. It also helps for disaster relief etc.


Anyway, it isn't quite wise to do that, unless you have resolved the whole cultural issue that plagues Australia. I mean if what you are saying would actually happen and the cultural issue wasn't solved, we would be dealing with more shit like what happened at Martin Place... Sure, people in there might know how to disarm or possibly handle the armed person, but the hostages would be more prone to get injured or killed.

What you're saying is quite ideal and honestly should be implemented, but there are way too many things plaguing Australia to even get close to accomplishing such an idea.

It also doesn't help that if you come across as a racist in some way, you'd instantly get shut down just like Pauline Hanson. I'd assume in your case Jim, you would avoid any form of racist point of views until you were in power that way you can get rid of all those sand monkeys who cause riots etc.
Spoon
Jiminy wrote:
I also find it extremely concerning that our men would just have no idea what to do or where to go in the event of a disaster or invasion. There's no plan.

In Finland, if the shit hits the fan, they all grab their rifle and head to their local area command and start organising what to do. In Australia we would just run around looting until the enemy rounded us up and stuck us in labour camps.

When you have a very small population and a large possibly hostile one day neighbour. Mandatory Military service is a very good idea. Right now we have 50,000 men who can fight really well and that's it. I'd like to see 50,000 who can fight really well and 8 million who can fight o.k.

Also, every man, no matter what their beliefs, should know how to handle a gun and have some idea how to be a part of an army so they can protect their local community. It also helps for disaster relief etc.

So you're saying we need to increase the readiness and defensive capability of our nation and then you leave out half the population?
Jiminy
Spoon wrote:
Jiminy wrote:
I also find it extremely concerning that our men would just have no idea what to do or where to go in the event of a disaster or invasion. There's no plan.

In Finland, if the shit hits the fan, they all grab their rifle and head to their local area command and start organising what to do. In Australia we would just run around looting until the enemy rounded us up and stuck us in labour camps.

When you have a very small population and a large possibly hostile one day neighbour. Mandatory Military service is a very good idea. Right now we have 50,000 men who can fight really well and that's it. I'd like to see 50,000 who can fight really well and 8 million who can fight o.k.

Also, every man, no matter what their beliefs, should know how to handle a gun and have some idea how to be a part of an army so they can protect their local community. It also helps for disaster relief etc.

So you're saying we need to increase the readiness and defensive capability of our nation and then you leave out half the population?


I actually chose 8 million as that's roughly the amount of full time employed people.
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Jiminy
Shrewmkin wrote:
Wow that typo zzzz

Jiminy wrote:
When you have a very small population and a large possibly hostile one day neighbour. Mandatory Military service is a very good idea. Right now we have 50,000 men who can fight really well and that's it. I'd like to see 50,000 who can fight really well and 8 million who can fight o.k.

Also, every man, no matter what their beliefs, should know how to handle a gun and have some idea how to be a part of an army so they can protect their local community. It also helps for disaster relief etc.


Anyway, it isn't quite wise to do that, unless you have resolved the whole cultural issue that plagues Australia. I mean if what you are saying would actually happen and the cultural issue wasn't solved, we would be dealing with more shit like what happened at Martin Place... Sure, people in there might know how to disarm or possibly handle the armed person, but the hostages would be more prone to get injured or killed.

What you're saying is quite ideal and honestly should be implemented, but there are way too many things plaguing Australia to even get close to accomplishing such an idea.

It also doesn't help that if you come across as a racist in some way, you'd instantly get shut down just like Pauline Hanson. I'd assume in your case Jim, you would avoid any form of racist point of views until you were in power that way you can get rid of all those sand monkeys who cause riots etc.


I'm not sure how mandatory military service like we have discussed would make you think more instances like the Martin Place siege would occur. I fail to see how you're correlating those two.

And what racist point of view are you talking about?
Fun
moss wrote:
What we need is a good old fashioned revolution. Hit the reset button.


Sometimes I imagine what it'd be like if we just had a political party which wasn't beholden to any sub-set demographic/corporation, and was just able to approach every individual issue with clarity and insight.

Alas we have two diametrically opposed collection of fuckwits, with all manner of other fuckwits in between.

So many fuckwits, so little time.
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