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An all-new documentary celebrating 10 years of adventure, camaraderie, and /dancing on mailboxes all around Azeroth. Explore the history of WoW with its creators, and journey into corners of Blizzard and the WoW community you’ve never seen before.

I watched this last night and thought it was put together well. It covers a bit of Blizzard history that you've probably seen before, but has a bunch of personal stories and other stuff I hadn't seen before too.

It made me very nostalgic, a must watch for any ex-WoW player.

Must. Not. Resub..
Enesis
I gave in Fork and was happy to see all the new content ( didn't take to long ) and with the exp coming I am sure it will be some fun. The guild is strong however there can be 20+ people online and not conversations in guild chat for hours... that is certainly different from the good old days.
Flap
Gave this a watch, reminded me how big this game has been in my life. Made so many friendships which are still lasting through the game and these forums, pretty awesome to think about. Also how epic the story is, from playing back in BC or WOTLK purely for raiding compared to now casually just to follow whats going on with the lore etc.

PS. Ene is right, need more gchat, hoping WoD will bring chatter back
Darkshaunz
Watching that made me nostalgic about Karazhan. I really loved that place.

I'll never forget the first time I went in there, as I felt proper chills shoot up my spine. It felt like being Alice in Wonderland, you're never really sure where you'll be when you round that corner. It possessed this sinister atmosphere, alongside and the dark, yet playful colours of the entire backdrop.

The entire instance just oozes flavour and class, and you can cut the musty air of lore and history of the place with a blade. Karazhan was a menagerie of encounters with beings from all corners of the universe, and seemed to be the perfect microcosm of what World of Warcraft was meant to represent:- the wanderlust of a hero's mind through time and space.

To this day, I doubt any place in Azeroth can match it.
Matey
Enesis wrote:
The guild is strong however there can be 20+ people online and not conversations in guild chat for hours... that is certainly different from the good old days.


I honestly think it's because right now there is a separation between the core raid team and the casual/new members. Being apart of the raid group or doing things in game together in general forms friendships between players. It's just a slow point in the game right now where no one is actually doing these things together. The people who raided together this xpac contact each other via FB daily to chat about WoW or anything else.

I suggest new members or those wanting more guild interaction to get connected to the Facebook page or encourage people to use these forums.
Actus
Guild chat is active when I'm in.

It's just active with me talking absolute shit.

There's generally a couple people in vent or a couple people on who will jump in vent if you ask in gchat
cailo-
Matey wrote:
Enesis wrote:
The guild is strong however there can be 20+ people online and not conversations in guild chat for hours... that is certainly different from the good old days.


I honestly think it's because right now there is a separation between the core raid team and the casual/new members. Being apart of the raid group or doing things in game together in general forms friendships between players. It's just a slow point in the game right now where no one is actually doing these things together. The people who raided together this xpac contact each other via FB daily to chat about WoW or anything else.

I suggest new members or those wanting more guild interaction to get connected to the Facebook page or encourage people to use these forums.


Yeah this has become something I have been aware of. I became GM to bring the Twelve guild back to Twelve people. Some things I have seen lately have been to the contrary.

I think that:

- Raiding makes the guild look good and something which people will want to be apart of. Today's raiders are tomorrows veterans who will be with us for good.

- There are times for fun and there are times for business. Being a jerk who just wants to have fun in business time will annoy the new recruits trying to raid. Being a stiff in fun time will annoy the veterans just wanting to have a good time. A clear distinction needs to be made between the two situations.

- Raiders can't just walk into twelve and be expected to be ultra social members that know everyone, that kind of thing takes time. I want everyone who wants to be apart of twelve to feel welcome. People can troll and muck around a bit but if its flat out bulling people will be afraid to chat.

- I would rather twelve not raid and have the veterans than twelve have raiding and with no veterans. We have a clear ranking system I keep up to date to show members that veterans are more important than you. If a member wants to be a veteran they have to earn that right. I promote members to veterans for 1 tier of raiding, being a major contributor, and being around for a long time like 3 years.

- I think that twelve can always co-exist with raiding and casual veterans.

- We have a third party now and that is of new socials who are not veterans or raiders to be apart of the guild. We have a few of these socials now and I think they can really help make things less quiet. I don't bother with tough recruitment guidelines any more. I think its better to have a couple of people asking stupid questions than nothing said at all. This is an opinion I will change if necessary but at the moment it seems to be working. The more people online the less chance things will be quiet.

Yeah we might have a bit of a "separation between the core raid team and the casual/new members" thing going on at the moment, but twelve is bloody strong right now and I think if we can acknowledge the way things are we can all help to do things to make the guild even stronger.
Matey
The most important factor is that it is the end of an expansion, which is ending with a patch that has been active for over a year. Depending on when people come back to the game they are either having fun exploring the changes, or completely burned out. WoD will even the playing field and bring excitement back. Everything will be fine.
Actus
Interesting post Cailo.

As a quick aside, I was speaking to Kitti last night and she was not even aware twelve was larger than a WoW guild, let alone that this website or any of the other faucets of the guild existed. It might pay to bring attention to the fact that there is socialisation out sight of the game.

From the opinion of a new member, I have not felt the guild lacks social interaction. Sure, there are a few members that are more social and others, but if you look for it, it's there. I've been doing more old raid content and fart arsing around on Vent with members of this guild than I did in most of my previous ones.

Moss is an excellent raid leader and brings almost the perfect attitude to raiding in terms of "business" \ "fun" time. He will let people on a leash to fuck around until it's business time and then things are bought back in pretty quickly. Obviously my opinion is only based off a short month or so of raiding I've done with ~half the raiders, but that's what it is.

As a new member, I certainly haven't felt a raft (rift?) between veterans and new members. As you well know Cailo, you've welcomed many of my friends into the guild and they've enjoyed their time, questions are answered. Sure, there's a lot of ribbing, but I don't think any one of them feels in any way ostracised.

As pointed out, we are also at the very end of an expansion and people are either not playing, or are frantically trying to knock out their last goals before WoD drop, I doubt many people are focussed on the social aspect of the game in any guild at the moment.
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