Enesis wrote: I honestly think it's because right now there is a separation between the core raid team and the casual/new members. Being apart of the raid group or doing things in game together in general forms friendships between players.
The guild is strong however there can be 20+ people online and not conversations in guild chat for hours... that is certainly different from the good old days.
It's just a slow point in the game right now where no one is actually doing these things together. The people who raided together this xpac contact each other via FB daily to chat about WoW or anything else.
I suggest new members or those wanting more guild interaction to get connected to the Facebook page or encourage people to use these forums.
Yeah this has become something I have been aware of. I became GM to bring the Twelve guild back to Twelve people. Some things I have seen lately have been to the contrary.
I think that:
- Raiding makes the guild look good and something which people will want to be apart of. Today's raiders are tomorrows veterans who will be with us for good.
- There are times for fun and there are times for business. Being a jerk who just wants to have fun in business time will annoy the new recruits trying to raid. Being a stiff in fun time will annoy the veterans just wanting to have a good time. A clear distinction needs to be made between the two situations.
- Raiders can't just walk into twelve and be expected to be ultra social members that know everyone, that kind of thing takes time. I want everyone who wants to be apart of twelve to feel welcome. People can troll and muck around a bit but if its flat out bulling people will be afraid to chat.
- I would rather twelve not raid and have the veterans than twelve have raiding and with no veterans. We have a clear ranking system I keep up to date to show members that veterans are more important than you. If a member wants to be a veteran they have to earn that right. I promote members to veterans for 1 tier of raiding, being a major contributor, and being around for a long time like 3 years.
- I think that twelve can always co-exist with raiding and casual veterans.
- We have a third party now and that is of new socials who are not veterans or raiders to be apart of the guild. We have a few of these socials now and I think they can really help make things less quiet. I don't bother with tough recruitment guidelines any more. I think its better to have a couple of people asking stupid questions than nothing said at all. This is an opinion I will change if necessary but at the moment it seems to be working. The more people online the less chance things will be quiet.
Yeah we might have a bit of a "separation between the core raid team and the casual/new members" thing going on at the moment, but twelve is bloody strong right now and I think if we can acknowledge the way things are we can all help to do things to make the guild even stronger.