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I'm not going to re-write everything up to this date. Everyone by now has heard about this tragedy, what I'm concerned about is the lack of information. When Air France had that disaster in 2009, the news were able to much more reliably transfer information to the public on any developments.

Having watched my fair share of air crash investigation I consider myself an expert on aviation disasters. What is coming out of Malaysia is a confused and poorly communicated jumble of information where theory is mixed with fact and then recounted and then struck from the record. Suspicious individuals are being compared to soccer players (a black one) when the individual is a white Iranian.

I've been involved in a number of incident investigations where the company invokes the right to hold information back; however this is well and truly in the public eye and I don't have the confidence that the right information is going to the right people so 777's are grounded or allowed to keep flying.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/mala … e-boo-boos
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/ … 6853069863
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malay … -criticism

For discussion:

-What's your theory on MH370s disappearance? Mechanical failure leading to explosion at altitude? Plummet into the ocean? Terrorism? Aliens?

-Isn't there an international governing body that regulates this shit and will hold Malaysia's hand through this process?

-When is your next flight and how do you feel about getting on a plane? (I'm off to Canada in June)
Fun
Only thing that makes feasible sense to me based on the fact that there was no distress call, well no fucking communication whatsoever from pilots OR passengers, is that it was a very quick decisive event (explosion) that destroyed the plane and it's occupants very quickly with little opportunity to raise the alarm.

That being said, if it was just a random explosion from an engine fault while on the way to it's destination - then where the fuck is the plane? If they had to change course they could have communicated that, however they didn't and now the plane is AWOL. I'm not one to jump straight to 'terrorism', but the plane has clearly gone off the grid and then blown the fuck up, and considering it was on the way to Beijing, and China treats it's Muslim minorities like shit, I wouldn't be surprised it this was intended as a 9/11 style plane-bomb for the Chinese capital by some Jihadist group.

Anyways, pretty fucking crazy either way.
hekate
Aliens


Hunterbob wrote:
Terrorist groups always claim responsibility for their attacks, so this looks pretty weird in that respect.

I was thinking about that, and at the moment a lack of information would be playing into a terrorist group's hand, I would think: the uncertainty, fear, conspiracy theories. If it was me, I'd wait until something was found to claim responsibility
Jiminy
They were saying last night that some air force picked up a big dog leg turn and change of course, saying it flew another hour after it's transponder stopped.

In a conventional air disaster (as in no foul play) the plane has a failure and crashes soon after. Sometimes the pilots have a few minutes to call a mayday or what not, but other times the failure is so bad the plane simply disintergrates or the pilots are rendered unconscious. In either case the plane remains roughly on course and would be found around the vicinity that the transponder stopped transmitting. So that's kind of out of the picture now.

The unlikely event of massive instrument failure leading a seasoned pilot to deviate of course is ludicrous. He would see from his compass/sun/moon that he was way off course

Which leads me to foul play. Either by the co-pilot who was apparently a bit of a wild cunt, or those two "asylum seekers" (which is apparently what we call any suspicious brown person these days) were trying to seek asylum with Allah and his virgins. They could also have just been ligitimate morons who thought they could take over the plane and fly it to Australia or America and seek asylum there. Hell that only happened the other day on a flight from Ethiopia to Rome. Never attribute to malice what you can just as easily attribute to stupidity I say.
bladearts
This is incredibly stupid and macabre. Is it possible for a plane to go dark and land it somewhere?

Organ harvesting, Human trafficking, and ludicrous things like that. It's just kind of chilling if they never end up finding out what happened to it.
Fork
willy wrote:
-What's your theory on MH370s disappearance? Mechanical failure leading to explosion at altitude? Plummet into the ocean? Terrorism? Aliens?

-When is your next flight and how do you feel about getting on a plane? (I'm off to Canada in June)

I would like to think Aliens. Maybe we have a new Bermuda Triangle in the making?

I'm flying out to Europe early June, with Malaysia Airlines. I'm just glad this has happened now (as terrible as that sounds) so hopefully by the time I fly out they will have taken steps or implemented new procedures so this can't happen again while I'm on board.

Docilus wrote:

That crash site looks a fair way off their course, even for a crash landing..
Darkshaunz
As a Malaysian, I find the tone of the OP post to be offensive, and derogatory towards the citizenry of Malaysia.

Especially the implication of the sentence, "having international bodies hold our (country's) hand". Implying that we've been resting on our laurels this entire time.

The implication is bizarre, especially when we have been co-ordinating with international search and rescue efforts in earnest. The American NTSB is already here, the French transportation bureau of safety is planning to send a delegation and we already have Chinese officials in Kuala Lumpur.

The OP also fails to acknowledge information that our air force chief moved ships (local and international assets) to the Straits of Malacca prior to the deconfirmation of the plane's turnaround. Additionally, Indonesia and America already had vessels heading in that direction days before the PR gaffe by our air force chief. You must understand, English isn't the primary language of Malaysia, and what he says in Malay may sound very different from what he says in English.

Although many of us here are bilingual, and some trilingual (myself included), we are often not as fluent in those as we are in our primary languages. What happens is the English portion of his Q & A fails to communicate clearly his intent. The reason he sent ships to the Malacca Strait is because he was not sure whether or not the radar track belonged to the aircraft in question. He acted upon this uncertainty because there was a small possibility that the plane is the one everybody is looking for. The 777's transponder was turned off, so the primary military radar track doesn't return a squawk code, nor a plane serial back to the military radar operator.

The best the military can do is act upon the limited information they have. However, due to our nation's air chief having a less than favourable command in English, this was interpreted as a foul play case/cover up by Western media alarmists. Malaysia literally has nothing to hide from our Western counterparts, seeing as we have a defence arrangement with America in bilateral terrorism countermeasure exercises, and also as part of the Five-Powers agreement. If the plane really did fly over the Malacca Strait, then the airbase in RMAF Butterworth would have detected it - and we have even less reason to hide that because the RMAF Butterworth base is run by an Australian air vice marshal, as part of our military alliance with Australia.

You could have worded and presented this discussion a lot better in the OP, instead, it rubs off as being Anti-Malaysian in nature.
Jiminy
Malaysian hate aside (and boy do I hate those Malaysians) the western media is nothing but a pack of alarmist nutbags. All they ever want to do is convince you that the government is kidnapping your first born for mind experiments, we're mere moments from an apocalyptic world war outbreak and everything WILL kill you.

When the story comes from another country it's like fucking open season for them.
Neifelheim
The whole thing was a coverup beautifully choreographed by the Bilderburg Commission.

While you won't find it in most news sites the flight was actually full of zionist operatives that helped trigger the Ukrainian Crisis and thus the following Crimean debacle, which happened because the Freemasons and the Oil mega corporations found it in their best interests so oil prices would sky rocket.

I hope every ones suspicions are laid to rest now I have given you the truth of the matter.
Spoon
Neifelheim wrote:
The whole thing was a coverup beautifully choreographed by the Bilderburg Commission.

While you won't find it in most news sites the flight was actually full of zionist operatives that helped trigger the Ukrainian Crisis and thus the following Crimean debacle, which happened because the Freemasons and the Oil mega corporations found it in their best interests so oil prices would sky rocket.

I hope every ones suspicions are laid to rest now I have given you the truth of the matter.


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Neifelheim
In my analysis of the missing flight I did however miss one possibility re the missing flight.

It was full of Hippies....and given the Malaysian Governments hardline stance on Hippies, it's very convenient for the flight to go missing? Hmm?

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