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Ayiru


This is the most sobering video i've seen in a while,

You do not need to fight the war, you need to sell the war
Ayiru
Nope, I am catching up on a site that posts things worth reading, and posting the ones I feel are interesting.
Ralphie
Has the word 'truth' in the title. Uses emotive music and cherry picked photography to build a subjective narrative.

Might have a valid message, but the way they try to 'sell' that message loses me instantly.
Ayiru
Ralphie wrote:
Has the word 'truth' in the title. Uses emotive music and cherry picked photography to build a subjective narrative.

Might have a valid message, but the way they try to 'sell' that message loses me instantly.


You are also the King of the cynics Ralph, :P

The guy is speaking the truth, you know it, I know it. He did not give this speech to a musical background, he gave it no doubt, after what he did in Iraq and has come home and realised JUST HOW FUCKED UP the war is.
Ayiru
kiral wrote:
Watch the unedited version then ralphie.



I actually feel a bit sick, watching this video.

2nd bit is just as horrific.





It keeps getting worse.
Jiminy
War is horrible, what a revelation.
It's economically motivated, another huge revelation. Common, how old are we?

I love how in the weeks after sep 11 the american people were baying for blood and revenge and now that their tempers have cooled and they've ransacked a few countries everyone is all "i never supported a war".

Having said that, they should have pulled everyone out after they caught Saddam.
Konstantine
I can't watch the videos at work, but if it's saying that US soldiers in Iraq are racist, this is hardly shocking news. I would be pretty racist against people who were trying to kill me every day too.
Ayiru
Konstantine wrote:
I can't watch the videos at work, but if it's saying that US soldiers in Iraq are racist, this is hardly shocking news. I would be pretty racist against people who were trying to kill me every day too.


I was more than shocked at the blatant appeals from these soldiers, as for "i'd be racist" - they are in another peoples country, killing innocent men, women and children. That's humanising the soldiers who are acting like total cunts and being unchecked for it.
Jiminy
Ayiru wrote:
they are in another peoples country, killing innocent men, women and children


Sounds similar to what a terrorist does.


Just out of curiosity Ayiru, if you were the president of the US, how many terrorist attacks and dead civilians would you allow? How many times would you turn the other cheek before you said fuck you cunts and decided to fight back?
Ayiru
So, you pose a theoretical question based on a nationality that I am not apart of and expect me to solve an issue for a culture who has had riots and a revolution partly based on racist issues? right on there buddy, right on.

Exactly HOW many times has the Middle East attacked America? And -HOW- many countries in the Middle East has America bombed into submission?

I believe the answer you are looking for is 1 to countless.

You are also trying to humanise racism and sanctify the right to utterly distort and torture another person, it's this kind of mentality that allows G'Bay to still exist and the dec of human rights to simply not apply.

Fuck this kind of thought, I'll happily be a "hippy" and back those who never wanted this war, never agreed to sending troops and NEVER would debase and abuse another human like these unmitigated pieces of shit are doing. Inb4umadbro - yeah, I am god damn mad. The 2nd solider openly admitted that they shot the fuck out of Mosques and he blew a mans head off for no good reason, then watched as 7 people had to carry the mutilated body away. Does this not in ANY way bother you? Or is this all in some ill begotten notion of "our freedom".

Fuck everyone who thinks that way.
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